Billy the Ex-Bethelite

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  Did I imagine a brief thaw in the Watchtower injunction against going to university?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  okay i was talking to an elder and he said me going to university was a bad idea and i should have listened to the society and not gone.

  but i said that when i went to university the watchtower was saying it might not be a bad idea to go to, as long as you do it for the "right reasons", don't associate with worldly people, and keep clear of "damaging ideas".

  but basically they said it was okay, in this "changing world" and job market to go to university.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Before I went to bethel, WT had established their anti-education policy. After I got to bethel, I saw how those with legal, medical, and engineering degrees got royal treatment. It was clear to me that it was wrong to pursue a degree, but if you're still a JW after you get one, they will be more than happy to "use" you. Yes, they did soften their stance on advanced education, although it was enforced to widely varying degrees by the JW clergy hierarchy. It was a loophole for those who could exploit it. By the time I left bethel, they had clamped down on it again.

  Okay I was talking to an elder and he said me going to university was a bad idea and I should have listened to the society and not gone.

  Going to bethel was a bad idea. After slaving there for years, I left with little more than memories. My degree and everything I learned in university is something of great value to me for the rest of my life.

  I also slaved to qualify to be appointed an elder and never received financial benefit from my years in that position. I was removed at the whim of the others on the body of elders. My degree has tripled my earning potential and it can't be taken away at the whim of some elders in a windowless room.
  
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  We were shown how to google jw-org last night

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so last night i went to the meeting with my family.

  had not gone in 2 weeks.

  as usual i sat down reading the bible.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  So the elder, rather than showing people how to go to the address bar and type the website address, showed them how to run a google search on jw-org.

  Why would anyone google a web address that they already know? As long as he's teaching them how to use google, it might empower more brothers to google words like "boobs".

  It used to be that WT said noduby needed the dangers of the Internet in their homes. Then as more dubs needed it for work or homework, WT instructed that it should only be on a computer in a public area of the home so noduby would be tempted by porn and/or apostates. Now that WT has almost completely abandoned printing, everyduby needs to have Internet access on all kinds of portable devices. Suddenly, porn isn't such a danger for dubs, eh? WT has such a fantastic website that none of the JWs will wander away to other websites?
  
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  Building layoffs & JW calendar 2016 theme

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the theme of the jw calendar 2016 is building, building, building.

  all the calendar pictures are about building wts property with cheap labor witnesses.. and then, just before the year approaches the building has halted.. it seems a short term decision.

  a strange correlation again.. gorby.

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  On average, 1,187 additional Kingdom Halls are needed each year to keep up with current organizational growth.

  The correct statement would be:

  On average, 1,187 additional Kingdom Halls need to be sold each year to keep up with current organizational expenses.
  
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  Magazine money

  by pepperheart in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from next year the borg will only be publishing the two magazines saving about $2 million dollars a month.

  what do you think they will be spending the money on

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  I think they're in a no-win downward spiral. With the reduction in ragazines WT will have a reduction in monthly donations received. How many publishers can afford to keep donating the same amount for half as many magazines? Those publishers now have to spend more of their income to keep upgrading their tablets and data plans.
  
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  What makes people kill others over religion? The same thing that makes JW's let children die over blood doctrine.

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  my inactive relative, (female) asked in exasperation, "what makes people kill others over religion?

  " i responded, "the same thing that makes jw's let children die over the blood doctrine.

  religious ignorance and fervor causing the death of others without any compunction?

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  "What makes people kill others over religion?"

  While JWs aren't the sort to grab weapons and start killing innocent people, it's what they have been trained to pray for and fantasize about.

  Q) Why do JWs pray that billions of people be killed for not belonging to their WT Corp religion?

  A) They've been promised to each get a pet panda. So it's the damn pandas' fault!

  
  
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  Liquidation sale of RBC assets

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  got this very interesting email last night and i thought i'd share it.. this is from the local rbc.. "in harmony with our new ldc form we have been asked by the branch to liquidate all current assets of used tools and materials once owned by the rbc.

  you are invited to visit the equipment trailers to acquire items being liquidated by the rbc asset team, these items will be offered on a first come bases with voluntary donation.

  if you see any item you like please be in position to take it with you at that time, after you return to your congregation then you will make a donation of cash or check in the congregation contribution box designated for the support of the worldwide work.

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  Maybe all the new construction they are planning will be tents.
  
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  No more printing of WT and Awake in my country.. Shit just got real

  by cognitivedizzy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  guys .

  a letter was just read in out kh stating that all printing of wt and awake is ceased for the coming year and we will just place tracts on fs, countries which were cared by our branch will be cared by other countries...along with this they read the new fs form and stuff about reporting links of videos wtf..lol.

  i can't tell which country perhaps that will give away a lot, any one with a similar information.

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  Evidently, Kali can kick Jehovah's ass.
  
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  Humans are not wired to want the truth

  by rebel8 in

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  2. friends

  that's what i suspect.. perhaps some of us retrained our brains to not surrender to a natural urge to believe the simplest, most drama-laden spins on facts.. examples (at least i think this is the truth!):.

  the clock.

  the son of muslim activists makes a device that, on purpose, looks like a bomb.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Perhaps people need to feel special, smarter than the rest. Rather than doing actual study and research (which is work) they grab hold of anything they hear that gives the appearance of having "inside knowledge" that others don't know or accept.

  The beginning of indoctrination in the JW cult involves "study" of "inside knowledge" about the bible and a collection of troovz that other people don't know or accept. Rather than doing actual study and research, they get spoon fed a collection of lies that gives them a feeling of being special, smarter, and having an imaginary relationship with a Bronze Age desert god.

  Certainly, there are plenty of religions, conspiracy theories, etc. that claim to be "the truth". So it's not that people deliberately choose lies. They want answers to hard questions and can't deal with there not being an easy answer. I think they want to pick "the truth" that is easy for them to stomach and gives them a feeling of being especially smart.

  What causes autism? Well, we need an easy answer. Blaming it on witches would be too 18th century, so they'll go with blaming it on vaccines. Doesn't that sound a lot more scientific and 21st century? ... well, except for the fact that real scientific research proves that vaccines don't cause autism.
  
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  Review of the November 15 study article - "Stand Firm in the Faith"

  by Divergent in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this study article poses questions that we should ask ourselves.

  don't have time to analyze the whole thing, so will start from paragraph 8:.

  8 do gods promises seem less real to me now than they once did?

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  Do God’s promises seem less real to me now than they once did? For instance, God has promised to destroy the present system of things.

  For instance, Jehovah is a large-scale terrorist. It's not just that those promises seem less real, it's that those promises are barbaric and disgustingly evil. What kind of a promise is that? A promise to murder billions of innocent people? Sick.
  
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  Pot calling the kettle black? Their "own mouth has testified against them"

  by cha ching in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201511/organized-religion-dying/.

  pot calling the kettle black?

  no one can do it better than the wt!.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  AWAKE! NOVEMBER 2015

  Is Religion Dying Out?

  "Why the Exodus?

  I guess they haven't heard of Islam. Why does Watchtower Corp ignore the entire Muslim world as if they don't exist?